Destroy your shop's competition in 3 easy steps

[Simoyd]

@majorvex

How do you get coin?

I put my gems in a shelf and vansten takes em and puts money in my basket.

[majorvex]

@Simoyd

I put my gems in a shelf and vansten takes em and puts money in my basket.

[DutchOfSorissi]

Well if you make the 15 inaccessible they will individually be flagged and removed from the list, right? If you make them accessible and do it to quickly manipulate the charts, you’re either selling out and only making 15c or people will assume they’re all you and once anyone else is on the list they’ll go buy from them. Lose/lose scenario.

I have no doubt manipulation efforts will mostly backfire and/or new measures to prevent them will arise.

[superman101]

Lol I actually see the point that it’s a very flawed shopping thing…couldn’t agree more…I was just messing with u…hahaha

[Simoyd]

@superman101

Lol I actually see the point that it’s a very flawed shopping thing…couldn’t agree more…I was just messing with u…hahaha

aaahhaha I’m with ya now XD

[Kaplah]

@Simoyd

It’s an in-game mechanic, and I am interested to understand how this game is most efficiently played.

That’s completely fair response.nothing wrong with wanting to know mechanics. I might be wrong but that’s not the impression you give by how you started thread.

[RISCX]

@james

Just a quick question about abuse. What is it? Well we’ll not know until we see it. But during development we could fairly easily think up strategies where the system could be abused. These were very quickly non-trivial to protect against.

well introductions of new system features, are likely to be used in unintended ways that the devs did not think of. This is not abuse. just players getting clever and creative! this is the beauty of sand box games that helps the human race use there minds excel. As devs might have not intended for certain uses of features, same with players not necessarily see making use of features as abusing that devs not want them to use in that way. simple result is for identify how the features being used after release of features and then make refinement corrections. Been there done that

[Simoyd]

@Kaplah

that’s not the impression you give by how you started thread.

you’re right, it’s pretty dramatic. I was a bit shocked by the idea as I was typing it.

[georgegroeg]

I haven’t logged on yet. Does it give coordinates? If so my hidden stands that I was giving away stuff for 10c could be found very easily. Which also means I’m now going to ask @james for chests. And new locks (locks and keys). Which can be added to doors and chests. HELLO DUNGEONS! Lol.

[Stretchious]

You can set your shop stand discoverability in the options on your beacon (or on a per shop stand basis), so they should remain hidden.

[majorvex]

@georgegroeg

Does it give coordinates?

When you are looking for items to buy, you just click on the shop in the list and it puts a GPS tracker on it for you to follow.

[georgegroeg]

Aaah!!! Well… I still stand by my need for chests and locks and keys and creature spawners. Lol.

[RedY3]

Actually unlike many people, i have high hopes for the system. I think most people wont go for great lengths to limit competition in this way and whoever does undercut others severely as to cause an imbalance in the competition wont last long (since they have to mine/make things themseleves all the time). Ive had good experience so far. Threw away like 300k until now in no time. Haaaaalp.

Also, for a good deal (and high qty), i didnt find running 2200 m a problem. I ran it several times so far xD. Pop a speed brew and move them legs on a fast char .

EDIT: Ok its about 500k now that i spent so far. This is working well xD. Plus, got to see so many new places and aaah Illuminaughty city (long name man) is REAAAAALLY nice!

Edit 2: Autumn Dell is wonderful too!

[molav]

I also think the system will work just fine and look forward to using it

[majorvex]

@RedY3

i didnt find running 2200 m a problem

Oddly enough, I did this earlier and I also didn’t mind one bit. Maybe because I knew exactly what was at the other end. I usually hate running across the land.

[RedY3]

I did it using a fast char with a long grapple and on fairly flat land (cephonex, eresho, lamblis, etc). I can imagine it being harder on high tier planets esp with lava everywhere. But hey, you can always ignore the offer. I ignored many hot deals due to their low qty.

Also, many times the seller of one item will have other items next to it of the same category so you would ideally need to look up one thing (mantle for example) and youll find several other mob drops next to it which makes the trip worth it. Happened to me a couple of times so far.

[Evergreen]

There’s a difference when you know you’re headed for a specific goal/reward. Not some ‘oh hmm I wonder if this will be stocked’. The brain is a tricky piece of hardware.

@RedY3

I can imagine it being harder on high tier planets esp with lava everywhere.

It’s not so bad, it really forces you to get skilled with your grapples though

[AeneaGames]

@Simoyd

also the devs can’t really define abuse so other than super obvious infractions, they can’t do anything. You can still take these steps and implement them abstractly low-key. it’s already happening.

Perhaps you can show them how you implemented it in your scanner?

@Simoyd

You can’t define abuse. if you do, then people do the minimum to be above that abuse. If you raise the bar then you start punishing innocent people.

BTW, how did you and fuzzy solve this with boundlesstrade anyway?

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@Simoyd

I mean there’s overlap between abuse cases and valid cases right? If all the inputs are the same, but one case is intended abuse, and one case is lack of knowledge, then intention is not discernible right? or am I missing something?

I am sure they have been thinking about this for a very long time and considered every angle…

[Simoyd]

@AeneaGames

BTW, how did you and fuzzy solve this with boundlesstrade anyway?

you can click next to go to page 2

[RedY3]

We can hold competitions where 2 (or more) players race to reach a shop stand (from a specific starting point) and whoever reaches it can have the item(s) in it. Wooo more friendly in-game games xD