Gleamball hunting / searching: What is the process?

I am simply amazed by the TNT / EllyQuest Gleam Hub. Which brings me to…

I’m interested in gleamball hunting!
That is, hunting for gleamball colors that have not been already added to the TNT megahub or “sub” hubs. I’ve got a character with all protection levels maxed out for searching so that isn’t an issue.

I’ll state what I DO know so that you are aware:

  1. Lots of colors are in the TNT hub and additional portals through there - I’ve went through all of the “sub” TNT portals and checked portal names for colors and poked my head through a couple random portals throughout here to see if any shiny gleamballs were up in the sky.

  2. Saw an amazing post by @xyberviri showing how to easily access gleamballs in the sky by placing a “place” under it in water and then teleporting to it. Awesome find!!

My questions to you, the ever-caring community, are these:

  1. Are there still gleamballs of colors that haven’t been found yet?

  2. Are the “new” or changing colors to find only on sovereign worlds, and therefore can change based on who owns it / changes it?

  3. On planets that do have gleamballs in the sky, are they in the sky all over the planet or only certain parts?

  4. (Some what off topic) hosting sovereign worlds - my understanding that this is do-able in game and costs money. I’ve also heard that planets can be “hosted” from your own environment ( your pc, a VM online, ect.) What kind of planets can be hosted? Only creative? And if you can host a non-creative world, can it still be reached from normal game and can the properties of hosted world be altered to have the gleam color of your desire?

Thanks for your time folks. I’m open to anything you have to share from your knowledge!

Edit - I want to make it clear that my intentions are to add found colors to the TNT megahub.

Even easier just swim under the gleam ball and then go to sanctum… then come back… i completely forgot to go back and update the post

Some gleam colors are still non-sov selectable. The homeworlds were set when the universe started, and won’t change unless the devs somehow decide to do so, only leaving sov worlds owners to change their worlds to whatever color (that is unlocked at that point) they want every month.

It’s a specific biome. Sov worlds with that biome and Serpensarindi which is the only homeworld with that biome (and with silk yellow gleamballs that everyone loves :joy:) can be found with gleamballs over the ocean.

You’re getting confused here. ‘Hosting’ a world prob is the local universes hosted on your PC that will be added with the upcoming update. The ‘purchased’ planets are the sov worlds and creative worlds. You can have either, and are generated and hosted by the devs on their servers, and are accessible by the current MMO universe. The owner can however sert perms to stop people from plotting, harvesting resources/blocks or even from visiting.

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  1. Are there still gleamballs of colors that haven’t been found yet?

Depends on your definition of “found”.

  • Some colors don’t exist at all as sovereigns don’t have that color unlocked, this can only be solved by people buying more sovs and hoping that it eventually unlock the missing color (as the color is randomly selected when purchasing (or i think using the monthly color change to random?) and has a chance to unlock new color)
  • Some colors are unlocked, but doesn’t seem to exist in any world. This can be divided to two state as well: No world has it (someone that has a sov with gleamball have to switch gleam to this color), or a world has it but it’s not scanned (so it doesn’t appear in colored block list on sites like boundlessinfo).
  • Some colors exists in a world and is available in the list, but there’s no portal to the gleamballs. This is the easiest one to hunt but also the least useful one (as anyone can do it easily with much less effort, compared to the other bullet points)

The 2nd (and 3rd) bullet point is probably what you want to hunt the most, first point isn’t something you can really control unless you want to spend real money on rolling sovs.

  1. Are the “new” or changing colors to find only on sovereign worlds, and therefore can change based on who owns it / changes it?

Yes, as Kokuma said, homeworlds don’t change and most of them don’t have a gleamball biome so that’s out of the equation. Gleamballs are mostly a sovereign world thing, and yes that means it can change anytime if the planet owner feels like it.

  1. On planets that do have gleamballs in the sky, are they in the sky all over the planet or only certain parts?

Only certain biomes has it.

  1. (Some what off topic) hosting sovereign worlds - my understanding that this is do-able in game and costs money. I’ve also heard that planets can be “hosted” from your own environment ( your pc, a VM online, ect.) What kind of planets can be hosted? Only creative? And if you can host a non-creative world, can it still be reached from normal game and can the properties of hosted world be altered to have the gleam color of your desire?

This is two separate things entirely. For the MMO, the only option is to rent a sovereign world by paying.
The upcoming update allows you to host your own universe. It works like the MMO, but it’s entirely separate from the main MMO universe.
Basically, think of the current MMO universe as the devs hosted universe. Sovereign world system is the devs giving a way for anyone to add a sovereign planet to their universe (by paying them), and they give your account permission to control that new planet you paid for.
Next update allows you to host your own universe, progress is entirely separate from (and you can never connect it to) the devs universe, and since the universe is yours, you’re free to add, remove, or modify any planet of any time and any quantity in your universe.

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I think its on the purchase of a new planet cause i have warped to them after they spawn and check the boundless api to see if any of the colors are new and its always the default one that isnt on the list.

once some one unlocks the color it appears as a selectable color for everyone else so it doesnt matter if the color is unlocked on a private T6 planet some one else can flip their colors over to the new ones afterwards.

the biome for gleam lake is
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Yes, color unlock happens when the world is added to the universe that has a new default color. Monthly reset lets you change to unlocked colors, but doesn’t have a new random color generation option.

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Ah I see, I heard from some ingame chats a while ago that they can use the monthly color change to “randomize the color”. I can’t test it as I never had a sov, so I just assumed there’s some sort of randomize button that allows rolling the color randomly as if it’s coloring for a new planet. I suppose I just misunderstood, then.

Hmm, there could be a randomize button I haven’t noticed, but I don’t believe it generates new colors. I think that requires a new purchase.

If you don’t renew your world, but just order a new one each month, you could end up generating new colors though.

or do renew them and end up like Paka :rofl: :laughing:

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I just learned this on my latest emerald planet

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You guys never fail to hit hard with the good details. Thank you for the enlightenment!

So let me summarize what I have learned here…

  • The only permanent planet with gleamballs is serp.

  • All other possible gleamballs come from sovereign worlds.

  • a sovereign world must have the gleamball lake biome in order to have gleamballs.

  • actual “new” colors can be “unlocked” when a Sov world is purchased, it is a random chance that a never-before generated color will be set to the world. When this happens, it is unlocked for all Sov world owners to set to when the next month rolls around, by an apparent gleam color property that can be adjusted once a month. This is why sometimes a marked color in TNT would be different than it’s designated color - the owner changed it or a new owner took over and changed it.

  • personal hosted worlds is actually an entire universe itself, and will never interact with the main MMO game we play.

So - it sounds like the most effortless option is to own a Sov world and set it to a color that doesn’t have a portal. Or get lucky and unlock a new color for everyone! The other option would be to try and locate gleamball biomes of colors that have not been portaled to yet - and even then is subject to change at the owner’s discretion. The owner would really need to be on-board with being dedicated to keeping that color for that to work.

Ok - great information folks! I have 2 more questions then:

  1. Is there an easy way to detect gleamball lake biomes? I’m pretty sure I saw some stores selling totems that auto-map an entire atlas. Is our only option to look at the atlas and figure out what gleamball biomes look like on this and search this way?

  2. When buying/generating a Sov world, is there any way to force a gleamball lake biome to be present? Or is this process entirely random?

Thanks again for your time and information.

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Pretty sure there’s no such thing. Otherwise people wouldn’t want my exoworld mapping sevice :joy:

Well, other than just running to water to see if it has giant gleamballs floating above it, i guess you could also check the atlas or from sanctum. It usually looks like a lake with gleam colored dots in it.

You choose a number of biomes for the planet to have when creating a new world. The gleamball lake biome is one of them, and will have some if you choose it to be included. How many there will be, or how large they’ll be is entirely random however.

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Ah okay, good to know that those totems were not what I thought they were. Thanks for pointing that out.

Owning a Sov world is starting to sound like the way to go.

Wondering if the world api in boundlexx has biome info in it… Would be useful to be able to compile a list of worlds with gleamball biomes in it. I’ll have to check.

No, that information isn’t available on Boundlexx. Biome info effectively isn’t visible anywhere I’m aware of after world creation unless the owner posts it.

Also, note that the color info on Boundlexx is gathered/updated when someone running the scanner (BoundlessProxyUI - Help track Sovereign World Colors + More!) looks into a portal of a world. This means that color data can be quite out of date, especially if the portal is obscure or non-existent.

My wife and I run Chromis I, which has a public monthly survey to decide the colors on the world.

While that process takes quite a bit of time, you could consider just doing it for gleam.

I would use Boundless Information Station to find some gleam colors you like that don’t have known planets (click the color name to see worlds with the color. Also, double check in the gleamhub as well, since some don’t get scan updates) and do a survey of what unavailable colors people would be interested in.

Unrelated, it occurs to me I should probably start scanning gleamhub worlds as part of my Chromis I color survey process to make things easier on myself.

Is there a “world tax”?

Depends on what you mean by that.
If you mean some sort of in-game tax for owning a world, there’s none to my knowledge, though you need to keep purchasing world fuel if you want to keep the world active.

I meant a tax similar to how a settlement owner taxes shops and baskets.

I just purchased my first world! Configured to have gleam lakes, woohoo!

Let’s cross our fingers for a new gleam color!!
I’ll post what color I get in this forum so you guys can confirm if it’s a new color or not.

The world tax for shop stands and baskets doesn’t go to any player.

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I got Dark Orange. New or no?

that’s a perm color available on Gloviathosa xD