Release 196 - Report issues here

[Aridhol]

ooh - I can’t be totally sure I’m not using quick collect every time. Its very possible that I am, lol

Next time I level up on testing I will try to remember to collect it the slow animated way and see if I crash too

Also: Saying its something on your end doesn’t mean you are doing anything wrong - it could be a driver specific error or something particular about your cpu or gpu - that’s not your fault, and it doesn’t even mean you have a bad pc or anything like that. Its just one of those things if its only effecting one person, there must be something on their end that’s interfering with it.

Sometimes certain overlays can cause it too, for example: I cannot use discord while I play minecraft, it always crashes immediately if I try. If I close discord - no problems. Why? I have no freaking clue. But that’s something weird happening on my end, probably. Or it could be a compatibility issue between two programs running at a time - thats why we’d sometimes need system specs. I used to work IT so I’m familiar with this stuff

[Zina]

I notice that if you tear down a Beacon, it still remains in the beacon list. It shows a bid red icon that it’s inactive, but I cannot remove it from the list. The X at the top does not respond. And there is not a delete from list option.

[schasm]

@Zina

I notice that if you tear down a Beacon, it still remains in the beacon list. It shows a bid red icon that it’s inactive, but I cannot remove it from the list. The X at the top does not respond. And there is not a delete from list option.

As far as I remember, it takes a while before the beacon can be removed. I think I had this happen and the next day the usual “Remove from beacons list” option was there.

[vdragon]

@willcrutchley

Seems like the hud notifications (the ones that pop up in the middle of your screen) say you were given a level coffer when it was actually just a feat coffer (at least, completing the novice lumberjack feat made this happen)

Thanks for the report. It does seems that the text is not matching the names of the coffers, so I’ll add this to the bug database.

@schasm

Soil harvested does not count towards the Soil Examination objective “Harvest Soil” unless the soil does not have any grass growing on it.

Similarly I could only get the Harvest Grass objective to increase by breaking the soil below the grass and collecting the block.

If you’re mining a block that is made up of a soil block with a grass texture on top, then it will display text on screen stating that it’s a grass block (e.g. Barbed Grass, Verdant Grass). This similarly applies to soil blocks with no grass on top (e.g. Clay Soil, Silty Soil).

@Psychomind

So the totem does no damage to blocks on higher tier worlds (tested on epsilo) due to the block armor. Not sure if this is intentional or not.

It’s intended.

@geoftastic

When I am opening the first warp in the Sanctum, I see my friends list, and for my online friend, it says ‘Open Warp cost 0c’ on green button, but won’t let me warp. I understand why it won’t, but the fact that it implies I should be able to is confusing, and may confuse and frustrate new players.

Can you clarify this further? Are you doing this with a brand character or an existing one? If you’re not able to warp, does the menu give the reason why?

@ceresward

Okay, I did some testing and figured out what was going on with tools becoming randomly unequipped from my hand. A tool will become unequipped from your hand when:

1. Another tool is moved directly from storage to create a smartstack with the tool, or to add to an existing smartstack containing the tool
2. Another tool within the same smartstack is moved directly into storage

Tools do not get unequipped as above when they come from another slot in your inventory. Storage includes at least crafting tables and storage blocks, I assume all non-inventory storage would have the same effect though.

Thanks for the report. I’ve added this to the database.

@geoftastic

Seeing some issues with Journal Objectives not updating: so far, A Plot for Permissions/Assign Permissions to a Beacon Member;

Seems fine to me. What permissions are affected for you?

@geoftastic

and A Spot of Gardening/Plant Grass Seed – I performed actions, still have not given me credit in aforementioned objectives for those actions, as of 5-10 minutes later.

Edit - A Spot of Gardening did update finally, it looks like it wants a fair number of grass seed planted, but doesn’t state a count, like most of the other objectives I’ve seen so far, so was confusing.

This seems okay to us on our end. For the task that requires placing down a grass seed, it will now only be necessary to place it down just once, so the fix will be on the live game soon.

@geoftastic

Note: A Chopping Good Time – not really an issue, but it seems logically like this should go before ‘If you Build it, They will come’, as chopping lumber for sap is required for If You Build It… (to make glue to make shelving).

I can’t find any reference to such an objective, unless you meant ‘A Chopping Great Time’.

If you started with a new character at the beginning, the initial objectives will ask to gather tree trunks, which will require mining them. You may have gathered sap at some point anyway.

@geoftastic

Seems like some of the Objectives don’t track travel, for example, for the Iron mining objective, I traveled to Omegasus V, to qualify ‘travelling to a world that is rugged or more inhospitable’. While on Omegasus, a couple of other Objectives appeared, with the same requirement ‘Travel to Rugged or more inhospitable world’ (Components of Archaeology, Mining Survival Challenge I), which did not track that I was already on a rugged world, and therefore should have qualified for that objective task (so looks like I would need to warp off and warp back onto Omegasus to check off the task).

Are you actually testing this on the live game? As that world isn’t currently available on there. Or on the testing version?

@Zina

So far the only thing that has happened is the game froze when my level 5 reward box was opening. I had to reboot the whole pc.

@Zina

Twice now my game crashed when one of the reward boxes was starting to open. At level 5 reward, and now level 11 reward. This time it crashed to desktop. At level 5 it froze the game and I had to reboot the pc.

I reported the crash dumps both times.

@Zina

Level 12 reward coffer just crashed the game. So this is 3 crashes so far on opening New Level Reward Coffers. The other coffers do not crash it. It crashed to desk top just before it opened up to spill its goodies out. It appears on screen and starts to shake , then the split second before the doors open the game crashes.

Mind you, I never had Boundless ever crash ever before.

@Aridhol

I didn’t crash when I hit 12. Probably just a fluke

@Zina

It isn’t the number of the level. It is the Level Reward Coffers that is crashing my game. 3 times now. Can’t be a fluke.

@Zina

When I opened the level reward Coffer by clicking Quick unlock or Unlock All, whatever that option is called, then it doesn’t crash, if the Reward coffer is mixed with the other coffers. It seems to only crash if the Level Reward Coffer opens by itself and using the full animation.

I know that bugs don’t always hit everyone. This is the first time I’ve had a consistent bug in the entire time I’ve played Boundless. It can’t be anything on my side. I upload the crash dumps every time it happens. When the coffers open, it has to be the least strain Boundless has to offer my pc.

We couldn’t find any crash dumps that were from the live game, but we did see some from the testing branch that references your username. Was it on that version where you were getting crashes?

@geoftastic

On several of the Objectives (e.g., A Less Common Coal, Components of Archaeology [2nd task list]) with multiple tasks, some of the task texts are overlapping to the point of being v difficult to read.

We have bugs in the database for the objectives that you have mentioned. If you have any other examples, please provide screenshots for these.

@Xaldafax

More work still needs to be done on the settlement algorithm. We had a hard time on testing trying to get 3 simple beacons to line up and create the settlement. Even a group of plots 3 wide still was not joining until we played with things.

If you like, provide coordinates of the layout you’re trying to achieve and I’ll provide an aerial shot for you to illustrate what kind of layout that you’re going for.

@Heureka

When i star a new character, I find the start a little odd.

When i done the first tutorial i get the message that i learn the basic and can now do what i want, and i get the objective to do a objective from the list.

But the only objective i get in the list is the builder one (place 32 block in your plot).
I need to place and remove the blocks for next objectives to be available (build a furnace, i think).

I want to start with the first objective for all paths, so i can chose what i want to do and not be forced to place/remove blocks to continue.

@Zina

Can the AIR supply bar gradate from light blue , to yellow, then to red? It would make it a lot more noticeable and pay attention to it more. All white my eyes kinda see past it sometimes, and I am deeper than I had air to make it up alive.

@Zina

Its been mentioned, but the compass needs some help. I suggest that the N.E.S.W. letter be above the bar instead of on it. Then the icons can stay and won’t clutter the compass. It is a real pain to see what your direction is when in a town or near anything players. Impossible actually at times.

I’ll pass the feedback onto the designers. As far as the compass is concerned, that’s already on our to-do list, but I’ve added your comments onto that.

@CreativeWorlds

If a slot is empty on the left hand, (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) and I select it with that number, then I try an’ select a new hotkey number to change tools, it won’t change, I hafta use the mouse wheel to get it unstuck.

Thanks for the report, I’ll add this to the database.

@CreativeWorlds

If I split a torch stack then try’n place the new stack into my right hand, it takes the entire original stack with it. I have to split the stack into the inventory first, then move it, I can’t just split then place in right hand.

Just to clarify, are you trying to split items from the inventory and placing it into one of your hands? If that’s the case, then no, you can’t do that. The item you place into your hand has to reference the inventory slot, so you have to split the items separately from within the inventory first.

[CreativeWorlds]

@vdragon

Just to clarify, are you trying to split items from the inventory and placing it into one of your hands?

Yeah, that’s what I was doing. It’s a quality of life thing, no biggie. I understand the technical reason.

[schasm]

@vdragon

If you’re mining a block that is made up of a soil block with a grass texture on top, then it will display text on screen stating that it’s a grass block (e.g. Barbed Grass, Verdant Grass). This similarly applies to soil blocks with no grass on top (e.g. Clay Soil, Silty Soil).

Yep I get that but the word “harvest” in the objective implies cutting the grass from the soil, but that gives you a seed and no increase in objective. “collect grass blocks” or similar would make more sense, I think.

[Xaldafax]

@vdragon

If you like, provide coordinates of the layout you’re trying to achieve and I’ll provide an aerial shot for you to illustrate what kind of layout that you’re going for.

We just changed things up because it wasn’t worth the time. Basically it was a 2x6 beacon and another 5x2 beacon in a row that connected to another 2x4 or something. It wasn’t until I made the beacon 2x4 three wide and switched plots will the 2x4 person that all of a sudden it was a settlement.

We had nothing like long roads of 1 or 2 wide plots. So I don’t know how the algorithm was already getting confused and not linking us when we were even had 2 plots free between us. This was the simplest of towns with a very basic design of just a 4 characters trying to build initial houses and get them connected. If you are interested it is ]i[ Marvoni Gateway Primis on testing @ like 30N 15E or something.

Ultimately, though, I still feel the overall approach you all have developed to settlements creating is not the smartest and can lead to challenges and issues that might never go away. You cannot really account for all city designs using some code with all the variables that people bring into the mix for designing a city.

A different model or method (like just selecting on your beacon which settlement to join) seems like possibly a better way to approach creation of settlements. It certainly gives people more power on what they join and don’t join. Like maybe I didn’t want to be part of the settlement in the first place but bam I am anyway. It would be nice if you all would consider other ways and post some ideas (at some point) so we can have discussions on if changing settlement creation would be better for the game play aspect.

Maybe you can pass on that viewpoint to the team working on this and see their thoughts (obviously after the release rush)…

[kainwotan]

It is so unplayable and thus can not create a new beacon fuel

[Zina]

@vdragon , yes on test only.

[the-moebius]

i opend a koffer in test server and it made me crash just now i filed crashdump thing

[vibe-x]

Same to me, when I pressed e for the tutorial messages, while opening a coffer. Don’t know if this is happening because of combination. I created dump and send it also.

[Zina]

The Message that “repeatedly placing blocks and picking them up again does not give you xp, and or extra resources”, is currently incorrect. I totally keep getting xp when I picked up some blocks that I was changing for a different color theme. I had already placed, them and recieved xp when I changed them out.

I did not get xp for placing down a block though.

On Test server.

[Zina]

@Zina

I notice that if you tear down a Beacon, it still remains in the beacon list. It shows a bid red icon that it’s inactive, but I cannot remove it from the list. The X at the top does not respond. And there is not a delete from list option.

Correction, and edit. I just realized I never actually set my new beacon as Home Beacon. So It would not let me delete it out of my places list.

[vdragon]

@kainwotan

We have a crash of the game when we click on “content” on the machines (German version)

Which machine did it occur on? Also, did you submit a crash dump at the time?

@kainwotan

It is so unplayable and thus can not create a new beacon fuel

Can you go into further detail? Was this during the tutorial or at another point in the game?

@schasm

Yep I get that but the word “harvest” in the objective implies cutting the grass from the soil, but that gives you a seed and no increase in objective. “collect grass blocks” or similar would make more sense, I think.

Okay, so this is actually about the working of the tasks. I’ll add a note to the database for someone to look at, since the word harvest implies gathering something, although those tasks can be completed by mining blocks but not collecting them.

@Xaldafax

We just changed things up because it wasn’t worth the time. Basically it was a 2x6 beacon and another 5x2 beacon in a row that connected to another 2x4 or something. It wasn’t until I made the beacon 2x4 three wide and switched plots will the 2x4 person that all of a sudden it was a settlement.

We had nothing like long roads of 1 or 2 wide plots. So I don’t know how the algorithm was already getting confused and not linking us when we were even had 2 plots free between us. This was the simplest of towns with a very basic design of just a 4 characters trying to build initial houses and get them connected. If you are interested it is ]i[ Marvoni Gateway Primis on testing @ like 30N 15E or something.

Ultimately, though, I still feel the overall approach you all have developed to settlements creating is not the smartest and can lead to challenges and issues that might never go away. You cannot really account for all city designs using some code with all the variables that people bring into the mix for designing a city.

A different model or method (like just selecting on your beacon which settlement to join) seems like possibly a better way to approach creation of settlements. It certainly gives people more power on what they join and don’t join. Like maybe I didn’t want to be part of the settlement in the first place but bam I am anyway. It would be nice if you all would consider other ways and post some ideas (at some point) so we can have discussions on if changing settlement creation would be better for the game play aspect.

Maybe you can pass on that viewpoint to the team working on this and see their thoughts (obviously after the release rush)…

@james and @lucadeltodecso, what do you think?

@Xaldafax, is this the area in question?

@Zina

yes on test only.

@the-moebius

i opend a koffer in test server and it made me crash just now i filed crashdump thing

@vibe-x

Same to me, when I pressed e for the tutorial messages, while opening a coffer. Don’t know if this is happening because of combination. I created dump and send it also.

Seems to have caused various crashes, so we’ll take a look at the crash dumps submitted.

@Zina

The Message that “repeatedly placing blocks and picking them up again does not give you xp, and or extra resources”, is currently incorrect. I totally keep getting xp when I picked up some blocks that I was changing for a different color theme. I had already placed, them and recieved xp when I changed them out.

I did not get xp for placing down a block though.

On Test server.

Thanks for the report, I’ll add this to the bug database.

[Xaldafax]

@vdragon

@Xaldafax, is this the area in question?

Yup… The area in question was the dock. If you really want I can draw out how it was at the time of the problem. Let me know.

Also do note, last I checked (yesterday) that tower in the bottom right is not part of our settlement even though it is 1 plot away from Sulfer’s area…

[kainwotan]

@vdragon

Which machine did it occur on? Also, did you submit a crash dump at the time?

The crash happens on every machine with “content” in german “Inhalt” means → If you click on it…«crash»
This crash happens only in the german version. Have the language switched to english … so everything works fine in english. (System: macOS Sierra v10.12.6 )

Where i can find the crash dump?

[vdragon]

@Xaldafax

Yup… The area in question was the dock. If you really want I can draw out how it was at the time of the problem. Let me know.

Also do note, last I checked (yesterday) that tower in the bottom right is not part of our settlement even though it is 1 plot away from Sulfer’s area…

If you can draw it out, that would be great.

@kainwotan

The crash happens on every machine with “content” in german “Inhalt” means -> If you click on it…«crash»
This crash happens only in the german version. Have the language switched to english … so everything works fine in english. (System: macOS Sierra v10.12.6 )

Where i can find the crash dump?

As you’re crashing on the Mac version, you won’t be able to submit a crash dump in this instance. However, we have been able to reproduce the issue and has been added it to the bug database.

However, if you do get another crash on the Mac version, follow the instructions below:

Q: How do I share a Boundless game log?

If you would like to report a problem when you are playing Boundless please include the following: Finding the Boundless game log: The game generates logs in following locations: On Mac OS X: ~/Library/Logs/Boundless/log.txt On Windows: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Turbulenz\Boundless\log.txt On most versions of Windows %LOCALAPPDATA% is a hidden directory. To access the file you can type the path to the file directly into Windows Explorer. Please Note - The most recent log will be log.txt, older log…

[Xaldafax]

@vdragon

If you can draw it out, that would be great.

@vdragon, if I remember this was the design at the time we were trying to create our first settlement.

1. Havok red box.
2. MrGamer purple box.
3. Merly yellow box.
4. Xaldafax blue box.

At first we had no settlement. Then Merlyn added the 4 plots up beside MrGamer thinking we should get a settlement and nothing happened. This doesn’t feel correct. We should have had one earlier because we all were within 2 plots of each other as solo beacons.

Finally we changed it again and added 2 things and all of a sudden the settlement was created:

a) MrGamer took over the 4 plots by his build to be a wider box.
b) I added the 3rd row of plots over the water (which I haven’t highlighted right now) and closed up the gap up to Xaldafax’s blue plots.

Lastly, as we stand as of last night when I changed again, everything in the black box is our settlement (basically) but the white box is not even though it is only 1 plot away.

[Zina]

@Xaldafax sorry for being off topic,BUT I would of laughed soooo hard if the drawing he asked for was going to be a paper with crayons used to make squares. For Some reason I just pictured that and laughed.

Or like a rough torn cardboard with a black marker, hahahaha. I wonder what vdragon would have thought.