Testing 187 - Report issues here

[Havok40k]

Shielding meatloaf seems to cause disconnection from server. Not a crash, but disconnect as if there is a poor connection. Disconnects as soon as I pass through portal from sanctum.

[willcrutchley]

Yep, I mentioned that earlier with shielding risotto. Looks like the shielding buff is just broken.

[willcrutchley]

Stone Hammer should say hammer tool, and wood axe should say axe tool.

[almund]

Advanced and common machines recipe descriptions need to be updated as compactor is now in advanced machines and mixer in common machines.
Personally I don’t like new compactor recipe but I guess these thoughts are more for release notes topic
Added on edit:
Using emotes on new system overlaps icons, another line change might be needed like when using say and so on.

[luke-turbulenz]

What items did you eat to get the effect?

[Stretchious]

What I see…

What Will sees…

The icons are different for the buff that he is supposed to have. Unless this was a quirk of it crashing the game when he ate the Shielding Risotto

[luke-turbulenz]

Did you both eat the same item and what was it?

[Stretchious]

Only Will ate it (Shielding Risotto) - it crashed the game for both of us

[luke-turbulenz]

Right, hopefully this will be solved in the next update. Not sure what is causing it but we know what is causing the Shield crash.

[Havok40k]

Awesome because shielding is crashing me too!

[vdragon]

@ComplexRogue7

My character has full health and almost full stam but he’s making noises like he’s either been shot, or he’s really happy to see me.

@Zina

mine to. its like he’s starving or hurting.

@ComplexRogue7

Yep! It started when I was low on health and stamina and only went away when I relogged.

The character should make a noise every time health and stamina are replenished. If the noise continuously plays even when there is no change in either, then it’s a bug. Could you confirm if this is the case?

@willcrutchley

No, one of the recipes requires both and doesn’t craft. I can’t remember which, but one does. Any food recipe requiring 2 ingredients in the furnace does not work.

@Havok40k

You make the meaty casserole in the mixer, then cook the raw casserole in the furnace, not the individual ingredients.

@willcrutchley

Oh, so the knowledge menu is wrong?

@Havok40k

Hmm. Not sure.

@Havok40k

You appear to be right. Earthyam Stew is made entirely in the crucible, but when earthyams and lamellas are put in the crucible, you only get cooked earthyams. If the same applies to the meaty casserole, then it seems to be a bug.

Okay, that makes it clearer. This will be added to the bug database.

@boundmore

I don’t have a base on Vulpto. My friend does. I have permissions there so I went there to use machines etc.

Only my main alt have permissions though.

I went there with my miner and dropped some 1000 coals on the floor and then switched to my main alt and picked it up.

Things went arseways after that. I couldn’t put that coal I picked off the floor in any of my machines and couldn’t even drop it back on the floor. It kept coming back to my inventory in a fraction of second after I moved it.

I restarted the game and… all that coal is gone. 2 hours of mining and 1000 coal is gone. Not on the floor not in any of my machines and not in my inventory.

That was 500+ soft coal, 400+ medium and almost 100 hard coal.

Did you have specific permissions or all permissions?

@Moleculor

If you make the mistake of making Minor Beacon Fuel with Handcrafting, rather than with the Crafting Table, the tutorial step does not complete. It shouldn’t matter where you make it, and having to make a second is a waste, since you can only really put one in at a time. (BTW, that should also probably be clarified, since I did make two and now have a waste of fuel.)

The task does specifically say that the Minor Beacon Fuel must be crafted using the Crafting Table. The same applies to the wooden tools you had to craft before that.

@Zina

I think an effects tab or something, or hover mouse over the effect, and a pop up telling you what the effect is doing to you specifically would be useful. I had a number of effects on me while testing but couldn’t tell what they were doing to me other than if it hit the health bar. Some could have hurt my armor, others my resist, other health or stamina, or their regens.

Okay update on Stamina bar. MY God does eating really affect it. So knew to needing to eat, I just didn’t realize it. No Stamina issues with a full belly. It requires a TON of raw uncooked food to get full though, pending how much bonus energy you have.Obviously the cooking recipies are going to be needed. Which build economy. So in all my stamina test above, Simply eat man! Huge stamina pool with a full belly.

Would having a single atlas ball fix the crash issues? I mean having to carry a ball per planet, and the scripts keep a memory of each ball, seems easier to just have the ball change per planet. Kind of like when map fog disappears as one discovers all the areas in other games.

@Zina

Eating earthyams, crashes the game sometimes.

My goodness eating does a lot. I see how this is an economy booster and a serious need. I have one hell of a energy pool with that bonus maxed and a full belly. More than enough energy to go around. I don’t think it’s known how important eating is now.

Tested, with max stamina and stamina regen and a full belly I have 4,830 energy. I shot 69 times with auto bow and uses 70 stam per shot. Pausing for 5 seconds instantly replenished 3000 stamina. Basically at this level, you just won’t have a stamina issue hunting, and NEVER have a stamina issue that keeps you from working with tools. They will probably wear out before you run out.

However at low levels, Stamina is a sure pain. Even with 5 bonus’s to energy, bow use only gives 11 shots off. A severe difference between that and a tool use. Bows should not use that much stamina over swinging a hammer. I might dare even say take stamina off bows, add it to jumping and running.

@Zina

Cooking raw yams and meat could be possible on a campfire for a simple slight boost over raw foods if one is out in the wilds on a hunt.

But it shouldn’t compete in any way over a real cooked dish and its bonuses that can be sold. got to consider the economy. So maybe scratch the campfire idea. Let us keep eating raw yams haha.

@Zina

Maybe not a bad thing, but Once I filled my belly full. Its been well over an hour and it hasn’t dropped at all. I do not know all the factors that calculate when or how often a character is suppose to get hungry. I have been standing around a lot in the game during this time.(update: after resetting skills and no bonuses to stamina, after a good 20 minutes of running and harvesting, the stamina bar has depleted about a third).

Also I have a status effect from one of the yams I ate, but no idea what that effect is. Could be low level health regen, but stamina hasn’t dropped either. On uncooked foods there shouldn’t be awesome positive effects, or it will nullify the need of cooked foods.

Also not sure if intended, but luck has zero affect on harvesting plant drops. Maybe it should being how mining has a small bonus with luck.

@Zina

I updated the original post to express the eating. Also as far as bomb mastery goes. What I didn’t know until a dev spawned some silver bombs in, is that copper bombs do not use the mastery or have bonuses from mastery. The description on the silver bombs work like that of higher level tools. So having a higher mastery unlocks higher %'s off the higher tier bombs. I didn’t see that in the update for say so though the bomb mastery was broke.

However Control skill seemed to do nothing, so maybe an explanation of how that helps would be nice, so we don’t assume its broken. In fact a lot of what I tested could just be misunderstandings of what you guys actually designed.

Looking at all the posts you wrote, it seems to be a mixture of bugs and feedback. Now, there’s nothing wrong with feedback (as we welcome it), but feedback tends to get lost in a topic about bugs, so you’re better off posting feedback in a separate topic (or posting to the Testing 187 release topic in this case).

Nevertheless, I’ll tag @luke-turbulenz and @olliepurkiss so that they can see this.

@Karokendo

Flower bug.

Oh, it’s this bug again. It was reported on the Release 186 topic and it has been added to the bug database, but we don’t have a fix for this just yet.

@Kirinvar

Using a Copper Spanner on Machines with already full condition will always display “500 Repaired” instead of a gray “0” like it does on live.

(Can’t say if its copper specific or for all spanners).

Thanks for the report, I’ll add this to the database.

@Kirinvar

Looking at the Upper of two vertically connected shelves makes the storage UI flow over the border.

Also in this screen: Getting hit in combat tints my health bar red and it stays red until i restart the game.

Both of these have been added to the database.

@Kirinvar

(I performed a skill reset to get my extra 300 skill points and to slowly introduce myself to the new recipes.)

I can craft “Fresh Vital Essence” with just “Basic Crafting Recipes” learned, even though it says i need “Common Item Recipes” in the tooltip.

Thanks for the report, a bug has been logged.

@jtanner28

One other thing: I noticed from the colors of the Power coils that they probably should require different compact gems to craft them, however all of them currently require compact diamond. Either diamonds are going to be a very important resource in the future, or this is a bug and it should be the gem matching the color.

Could a developer please confirm that these recipes are incorrect? Otherwise, I am going on a serious Diamond run once I get back to the live server.

I’ll pass your comments to the appropriate person to see if this is the case.

@Kirinvar

When breaking down portal conduits (mining them with a hammer or totem) will only drop the blocks about 50% of the time.

So a Portal of 6 blocks only yields 2-3 portal conduits.

@Eldwen

Just tested this with about the same results. Ouch.

Thanks for the reports, I’ve added this to the bug database.

@nevir

(World Builder)

y-fun-max on layered 3d nodes has some weird behavior (I think when it hits some extremes? but not entirely clear), where offsets jump straight to an altitude of 0, often affecting 2+ layers away:

y-fun-max.json · GitHub

the way to avoid it is to reduce the y-fun-max to a pretty low value, but it’s not entirely intuitive (and, if you want some more extreme noise between layers, you’re SOL). Though, thankfully, elevate 3d can achieve similar results as an alternative

@nevir

Edit: I think this is working as intended, actually?

Edit edit: now I’m not so sure. My mental model of how I thought it worked:

^ my expectation was that both of those nodes (top row, bottom row) should evaluate to identical noise. However, they clearly do not!

I’ll let @Tobelawe answer this one.

@Eldwen

So this happened:

(Crafting time left on the Iron)

Edit: Removing all items, stopping the furnace, and closing the window fixed it.

@Kirinvar

I have the same issue from time to time. But for me it fixes itself after some time. Sometimes it takes longer and sometimes it recovers faster. (Maybe its a display error?)

Did it happen when you came back to the Furnace after some time?

Or did it happen while you stayed near it?

@Eldwen

My wife and I were both in our base mostly afk near the furnaces the whole time.

Those are some obscenely large crafting times. Thanks for the reports, I’ll add it to the bug database.

@willcrutchley

Bomb mastery seems to be broken. I have 0 mastery and when using silver bombs, which require 1 mastery, it adds 1000 max stamina when it should, according to the right-click info, only add 800 seeing as my mastery is 0.

Thanks for the report, I’ve added this to the bug database.

@Jiivita

when eating raw meat… the combat text informs me the i get 40s of the “sick” debuff but it does not show up as a debuff by the HP bar… nor does it seem to have any noticeable effects

It’s certainly doesn’t look like a lot of information is being presented, so I’ll add this to the bug database.

@willcrutchley

Stone Hammer should say hammer tool, and wood axe should say axe tool.

The item descriptions do look incomplete. Thanks for the report, I’ll add it to the bug database.

@almund

Advanced and common machines recipe descriptions need to be updated as compactor is now in advanced machines and mixer in common machines.

Whereabouts are the descriptions located?

@almund

Using emotes on new system overlaps icons, another line change might be needed like when using say and so on.

Thanks for the report and screenshot. It’s been added to the bug database.

[luke-turbulenz]

@Moleculor

If you make the mistake of making Minor Beacon Fuel with Handcrafting, rather than with the Crafting Table, the tutorial step does not complete. It shouldn’t matter where you make it, and having to make a second is a waste, since you can only really put one in at a time. (BTW, that should also probably be clarified, since I did make two and now have a waste of fuel.)

I’ve changed this so you only need to have the item in the your inventory and it is up to you how you acquire it.

[Moleculor]

@luke-turbulenz

I’ve changed this so you only need to have the item in the your inventory and it is up to you how you acquire it.

Thank you! The previous tutorial was sufficient for educating on the use of a crafting table, confusing people as to why they have fuel, but it’s not counting it seemed like it would just add frustration to a step that feels intended to exclusively educate about fuel, not about crafting.

I’ll have to hop back in to testing later to see if I see any other things that stand out for early-game stuff.

[luke-turbulenz]

It’s the little things like this that make the experience better for everyone. After dabbling with a certain competitor game on a new console, I was surprised at how frustrating their tutorial was and how much of an effort we have gone to to make ours welcoming and useful. By the way, they had the same problem where I needed to get a material but I already had it in my inventory.

[almund]

@vdragon

Whereabouts are the descriptions located?

It is on Character → Skills under Item Crafting, but maybe my report was just too early as I see also other descriptions missing there like both Engine recipe descriptions.

[ComplexRogue7]

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@ComplexRogue7

My character has full health and almost full stam but he’s making noises like he’s either been shot, or he’s really happy to see me.

@Zina

mine to. its like he’s starving or hurting.

@ComplexRogue7

Yep! It started when I was low on health and stamina and only went away when I relogged.

The character should make a noise every time health and stamina are replenished. If the noise continuously plays even when there is no change in either, then it’s a bug. Could you confirm if this is the case?

I can confirm that it continues long after health and stam has been replenished and only went away once I’d returned to Sanctum.

[boundmore]

@vdragon

Did you have specific permissions or all permissions?

Moleculor:

I had all of them.

[vdragon]

@almund

It is on Character –> Skills under Item Crafting, but maybe my report was just too early as I see also other descriptions missing there like both Engine recipe descriptions.

Thanks for the reply. Yes, it turns out that the descriptions for those skills have not been updated at the same time, so I’ll add a note to the database.

@ComplexRogue7

I can confirm that it continues long after health and stam has been replenished and only went away once I’d returned to Sanctum.

Thanks for the confirmation, I’ll add it to the bug database.

@boundmore

I had all of them.

It sounds like one of those cases where you executed an action in game, but the server didn’t recognise it. Has something like this occurred to you previously?

[boundmore]

@vdragon

It sounds like one of those cases where you executed an action in game, but the server didn’t recognise it. Has something like this occurred to you previously?

Once. Long time ago after the alts were introduced and before we could give them permissions. I used to drop stuff on the floor and pick it up with another alt. Worked well until that one case. I reported it back then as well. It was live version though.

[almund]

I was trying to do some cooking on (stone) furnace and wanted to try to make starberry soup.

When I had required items inside furnace, it did look like this

So I thought, my recipe is right if I just hit start it would start cooking soup, but instead of soup it did start cooking this

.
Same happened when I did want to cook meaty broth (3 raw meat and 1 bucket of water) or eathyam stew.
Did I do something wrong on cooking process or is soup recipe(s) broken?