I used to have some expectations, but at this point I have zero.
The one communication that everyone seems to want to point out was the reaction to my post in the Larian forums that was trying to get someone to talk to about the state of the game. I didn’t create that post there for any reason other than wanting communication from someone on what the status of the game is and if there was anything I or anyone could do to help.
I think it would be helpful to come here and state something to the extent that community isn’t forgotten sure. Periodically checking in would be helpful too. @Rydralain you and I both know this community is bleeding (some more than others) and at times it just takes some reassurance or even a little “Hey we are still around, just busy”.
I guess I was just raised differently in a different time when customer service was a thing.
I think that the reason I see that as misguided is because I saw the community bleeding before the communication completely stopped, and the complaints and bleeding never stopped, even when there was communication.
As far as I can tell from this game and many others, actual releases, and nothing else, can staunch the bleed. That’s obviously just my opinion/perspective, but it’s what I firmly believe.
Guess since I am new and never was privileged to that level of communication you could view it as misguided. I know there are plenty of people whom have been here since the beginning that are in agreeance that the lack of communication is unacceptable.
I agree though there is nothing that can stop the bleed sadly. It could however help with a update or two to bring new players in and hold their interest. It would take some work, but personally I have seen a few communication efforts one which was almost forced by my post in Larian’s forums.
Something important to remember, is that the community never experiences any of this as a collective… Everyone is reaching the same emotional milestones or the same breaking points but at different times. So it’s easy to see some new disgruntled post pop up and think, “Oh, THIS again!” when it may be that person’s first time. And then some familiar faces arrive to respond to them on both sides of the discussion, and here we are again.
This is my expectation, and I think it will find a lot of support among people who’ve been reading this thread… CHECK IN. Even if nothing has changed, stop in and say, “Nothing has changed.” Because a year is an awfully long time, and if your last official communication was in March (and barely one at that) and you don’t come back to say “Nothing Has Changed” then I assume that something HAS changed. Frankly, given the amount of things that can change in a year, I’m amazed that you or anyone else could think it unreasonable for some forum users to wonder where the devs are and assume the worst.
An example in gaming… Activision/Blizzard. I don’t think I need to regurgitate all of the details but they’ve gone through “a few” changes this year and if we asked them back in March about the health and future of their company, I’m pretty sure that all of that information would be outdated by now.
So, yes. Absolutely. I think it would be helpful for them to come in and repeat periodically that “Nothing Has Changed”. Not just helpful but professional, and essential to the health and future of their game and its community. And to anticipate your next question of how often, given that there’s so little to talk about when nothing new is happening, I’d expect that at least on a quarterly basis. “We’re still here, we’re not dead, we’re coming back Soon™.” I don’t talk to my mother every week but I still call her at Christmas, ya know?
I doubt it would satisfy everyone, but I bet you could appease an awful lot of them.
You’re utterly deluded. A year ago the devs stopped responding to anything on these forums. Players who needed help get no response. It’s not just about updates. Although I can’t think of any MMO that would get away with no comment on updates for over a year. They behave as though it’s no longer anything to do with them. Although they’re not ‘too busy’ to keep appearing on the forums appearance list as someone pointed out.
And what about the contribution to the forum from the Square Enix employee? He obviously doesn’t share your nonchalant attitude. Obviously things are not okay with Boundless. And your apathetic acceptance doesn’t help in any way. So stop taking the high moral ground.
I don’t see this as apathetic acceptance. It’s realistic expectations.
Be angry that there are no releases, yell about that, quit paying for the game, leave honest reviews about your experiences, don’t tell your friends to buy the game, all sounds reasonable to me. I just don’t think that a quarterly check-in is valuable.
I personally thought the “apathetic acceptance” was more targeted toward to notion of people being so ready to give a pass because the game works/is enjoyable in its current state, or when you essentially said “James told us where the development of 249 was 6 months ago, we don’t need to ask any more from him”.
There is something to be said about the notion that the customers should not accept to be kept in the dark by the devs, arguing infinitely in circles among themselves.
The more we accept it, the more we give companies a pass to do that, the more it will happen.
It’s something I tried to point out before, something that happened a lot in recent years (and it can’t all be pinned on COVID).
If you look outside of just Boundless, it is a terrifyingly growing trend to have games that get released by companies which mess-up their communications, or their budget, or their time, or just don’t have the proper skills to pull off what they wanted (or several/all of the above).
And so we get more and more games which are just incomplete or buggy as hell, and it now seems normal to think “eh, it’ll be fixed post-release in patches”. And some just never get completed or never get all their bugs fixed. Kinda like Boundless, which will likely remain in its incomplete state without Titans and such.
But it’s fine, right? The game is playable, afterall. That’s all we could ask for…
Might be the smartest thing you’ve ever said on this forum.
yes. Some people have too much of an emotional attachment to developers that probably don’t care about the player base. don’t have to leave the game, just don’t have to defend the devs at all costs. That’s my position on it, but there are absolutely people that are too deep into Boundless. Mostly neutral POV, but i’m not refueling my beacons this time.
This feels so irresponsible to me. Sometimes I’ll invest in a project hoping something will come of it, but I know that money might be gone. Otherwise, I only play games that I find fun right now, and I only pay for games that I find fun or believe will be fun in their current state.
Exact words from an 11 year old … “Why are all these people arguing over a game? Don’t they know its just a game? Why don’t they just enjoy it while they can?”
Then again I don’t let my son post on here…maybe I should.
It’s like I haven’t just made an argument about how there’s a systemic issue with the video-game industry that goes beyond Boundless, something we should fight, instead of giving into.
But sure, basically insult everyone’s intelligence by saying we might all be 13 yrs old (which includes you too), or by saying “shut up and enjoy the game, my 11 yrs old kid is wiser than y’all”, like you’re so beyond it all.
That’ll help.
@CajunBeauty Basically you see the bonuses you get from buying the Deluxe Edition of the game, where you get stuff like a bonus +10% to your total amount of plots, the recipe for a special tool/weapon, and a title (which nobody will notice because it’s hidden somewhere in your character stat sheets instead of being displayed with your name above your character), and a bunch of cubits?
I recon it’s basically that, but on steroids, so something like a +40 or 50% to your total plots and such. Doesn’t sound like much, but when you have like 10000 available plots, when then it becomes 15000. Quickly adds-up.
It’s a backer’s reward. Something you can’t buy anywhere now because it was only available when the game was in it’s crowdfunding phase many years ago.
When you see someone crafting the Wayfarer’s Totem, it’s someone who’s been around for years and backed the game then.
I love to love this game. I feel like I’ve moved out of a childhood house which was awesome and full of wonder. Nowadays I can go visit the house every now and then, where I can still see what made the place so awesome, but its lost its spark. I would love to find it again
I do often drive by to see if its had any renovations though of course
