You are renting James time you are paying his bills gamers really need to get this you are spending your hard earned money from your day job to support this game. When we as a whole come to the realization we are what keeps the lights on for them then these companies will stop taking advantage of us as gamers.
Well I havenāt paid anyone anything in 4 years so. Iām sure this logic is flawed somewhere
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To be honest, I rent sovereigns because I enjoy being able to change the colours, harvest resources, etc. Iāve never really looked at it as a rent-a-friend scheme and Iām sure itās not intended that way by James.
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If this was a monthly sub with no other benefits like WoW, or if I was paying for expansions with no content, I could agree with you, but the service I am paying for isā¦ Wellā¦ Whatās on the label for my sov and gleamclub.
When I āvote with my walletā in this regard, itās by telling my friends āhey, I know this game sounds fun, but know that the devs have been awol for a long time, so buying now could be a bad idea.ā I also include that the trailer has stuff in it that isnāt in the game.
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Just checking in, did an update or post get shared regarding the future of the game? ā I canāt see anything obvious but maybe there was an in game announcement or something not posted here.
Thanks in advance.
Nothing yet
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Sad, But thanks!
Maybe they are wanting us to quit so they donāt have to deal with us anymore without looking like the bad guys.
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Plenty of developers out there that need work to further there portfolios. If itās man power they need then can enlist people from all over and send them the files needed to do the job. Doesnāt have to cost money at the beginning when the game turns a profit then distribution of funds can happen. Lots of games do this in the early stages. If itās beyond this scope then maybe they are shooting to big and deals keep falling through.
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Some people did actually offer their services but went unanswered.
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No. I assume you are not yet an adult after reading this.
This game is nearly a decade old now. Itās not in āthe early stagesā.
Theyāve already crowdfunded and already passed on even the easy parts of what they promised to their backers. This would have to be addressed before anyone else with a brain would volunteer their time and money in hopes of getting āpaid back laterā.
Also to be clear the game has something of an established revenue model. And clearly, itās insufficient. Which brings us to the next point:
Finding staff was never the problem. Paying them was.
This is not a little indie game struggling to get on itās feet. It does in fact appear to be on the downhill slide. Theyāve already had a crowdfunding phase, been in and out of square enix contracts, got sony and steam on the table (together!!) etcā¦ and still.
The game appears to be hanging on by the strength of a web of contracts right now. It may or may not be ālosing moneyā with no developer salaries attached to it, however even if it were Jamesā sole bread and butter (so one staff/developer full time) itās probably not currently profitable.
The sheer irony of two+ years of full on development aimed at keeping down problems that were mainly attributed to overcrowding 
Problem solved.
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Not a kid I am saying this we give money for a service. This is an mmo with a player based economy without players it is no longer a mmo or can the economy sustain. This is no different then any other business they are providing a service just because it is a video game does not make it any different from a retail store. They advertise " Boundless is a sandbox MMORPG that enables player collaboration . You can choose to play solo, or join up with friends or players from all over the world. Explore, defeat dangerous creatures, gather rare resources and build a colony together. With the MMORPG attached they are a live service because they are the same thing. If they would of released the last patch they could have pushed away from the live service and pushed the universe onto us but they didnāt and they are still stuck with us. My whole deal and argument is this if you donāt want to develop a game any more just be honest and come out and say it donāt beat around the bush or give us the silent treatment. I know a lot of people in boundless that are far above average intelligence and I have to say it really is an insult to said intelligence. Also they are not the first company to do this but the big ones you expect it out of this company I really didnāt. It was very community based at the beginning then it just started to decline down to what we have now.
Boundless is a sandbox MMO. Not an MMOPRG.
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I feel like they were very clear about their intentionsā¦
So what else are you looking for here?
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Thatās all fine and good however
As regards the adulting comment, look, if youāve ever had a job where you dealt with clients you learns quickly that some of them can be very abusive of what is basically a business relationship.
While james has mainly been the āface of wonderstruckā or whatever you want to call it, your decision to spend money on this game does not entitle you to his personal time or attention in any way at all.
None of what you posted there changes that. And the level to which some people have taken that lately (thank goodness there is some live moderation still) has been absolutely off the hook. That definitely affects my shortness, sorry.
Boundless didnāt come with any SLA really or service and support contract that Iām aware of. James not pandering to the tens of pings he gets per day from these forums is (in most cases) not even a personal insult.
Pick any company that you regularly spend money at. Attempt to contact the CEO directly, and inform them that the money youāve been spending on their products is something substantial enough that you consider it an investment, and you need an update on the current state and future direction of the company and itās product line.
etcā¦ Maybe you have some suggestions for how they can refactor their operations to suit you better?
IDK man my response to some of the stuff around here is definitely not all about you though so sorry for the knee-jerk regarding the thought that buying a product is equivalent to being owed (something personal) by specific employees.
No doubt about the problems and to some extent, they have a forum people can ask for what they want. Iām not trying to argue against peopleās requests for information in general.
But with regard to whatās really owed to anyone for having bought the game, it isnāt honestly much.
As the personal rants, escalating into insults and in some cases, attacks on james continue to escalate, Iām not sure why anyone would expect this game to get any real effort past fulfilling itās contracts. If they roll out 249 to capture some ālong tailā, weāll be lucky. At this rate.
Much more than any snide comment, thatās my real thoughts on this matter.
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This. So much this. Iāve long been critical of the lack of communicationā¦for years. I remember when some of the folks complaining now were telling me not to complain and to just enjoy playing the game, so Iāve been highly amused these last few monthsā¦but asking for an update vs. some of the blatant attacks from folks against James are two completely different things and some of the posts Iāve read here have really disturbed me with how cruel and violent theyāve been.
If I were him Iād pretty much be happy to leave everyone hanging. With BG3 nearing release Iām sure he and the team at Larian are beyond slammed and the last thing Iād want is to come check on the game I spent so many years building only to see what some of the folks on here are saying. Theyāre probably spending tens of hours in overtime and heās still managing to spend a few hours here and there to read through things.
That being said, I canāt help but go back to something I believe @bucfanpaka mentioned quite a while ago in that I suspect James and team are under some sort of legal obligation to do no more on this game other than basic maintenance and resolution of issues until X date. Some form of a non-compete to ensure theyāre able to spend a proper amount of time working on BG3. It would explain most of the radio silence and lack of details.
Like @Dhusk Iām hopeful to see something as early as tomorrow (start of a new month, the potential contract might end at the end of a month) or hopefully before the anniversary.
I get folks have strong feelings. Iāve been having similar feelings for years now. But unleashing on the poor guy isnāt doing anything positive. Iād recommend to some folks just subscribing to notifications for the ānewsā and āannouncementā topics and then just do a quick check daily to see if anything has been posted. Thatās what Iāve been doing at least 
. Makes it fair easier to avoid the drama and the once-a-day new post about the same handful of topics that have been discussed for the last couple of months.
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Potential new players should be made aware it is survival as much as it is open world with sandbox-ish experience.
It is only full sandbox when played on creative or potentially locally if 249 gets pushed through.
Itās good if they know its not MMORPG in traditional mould (meaning WoW).
We had enough newcomers that were either expecting full possibilities of non-progression sandbox or dungeons and quests of a NPC populated MMO.
There is nothing wrong with the concept Boundless is trying to establish (player content only, co-op balanced with single player style, player based economy, open survival world, class-free progression). But a lot of players buying the game in the past seemed to have a misjudged idea about what they bought, and a lot of them left quickly, leaving posts bemoaning the lack of dungeons or supposedly massive grind.
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Send them to any Korean MMO and have them report back if they still think boundless is a āMassive grindā.
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It is a matter of perception indeed.
Complains about grind more often than not came from players who expected a creative sandbox that doesnāt put many if any obstacles in the way of their building projects. I helped a few such players, explaining game mechanics and sharing some building materials and tools. All came from minecraft and after initial excitement they all left cause they found acquiring materials too difficult and time consuming. They just wanted to build.
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Boundless is my favorite game! Iām looking forward to news.
Have a fabulous day fellow Boundless playerās!
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