Seriously, there is an attitude issue on these servers

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@Xaldafax

Can you please link these or at least send in a PM. I have heard this before and never seen any real evidence. I think it’s important for that transparency if true.

TBH in the midst of everything going on this was the moment when it wort of felt like he lost it and decided to start “trolling back” at the users:

Please stop calling stone xp an exploit

This thread is not intended to address the merits of stone xp itself or the planned changes to it, but to talk about the language being used in the discussion. Please stop referring to stone xp as an exploit. It isn’t, at least not in the sense that exploit is commonly used in video games. This applies to players, but especially to the devs. They are using the term exploit to try to soften the blow of what is a pretty straight forward balance change. All the mechanics involved in gaining stone…

The conversation I had with you as shortly after.

@Simoyd

not saying an opinion on this. just linking things up.

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If we rebalance the crafting XP and crafting timers does everyone promise not to scream NERF at us for months afterwards?

EDIT: personally I read this as just joking, not facetious.

Thank you Simoyd i tied and tried to find that conversation, i scanned like, a months worth of release notes threads and several others.

I honestly have no idea what happened at the back end to get us from the quote linked there, to the statements made after the announcement.

I wasn’t even bothered when they didn’t announce the reduced crafting time I told my friends to chill because it was obviously going to be “part of the deal”. Sure enough.

I just don’t understand how it suddenly came about to be that this is “a necessary change for the health of the game due to a massive exploit”. This dialog could have been managed to a much more reasonable end.

As for the tone of the forum overall, there are some nasty players but, I’ve come from much worse. I’ve gotten in one really nasty argument here and while I don’t interact with those guys much, I’m not seeing any sign of them trying to carry it into some sort of vendetta or anything. I generally don’t get nasty with an individual until they start making names or directing rude remarks at me. Usually. But it happens.

This could have been handled differently.

Anyways I’ve participated in some VERY heavily modded forums and they’re nice but useless. There is a middle of the road and there should be something to do when someone gets so hot they’re blasting out pages and pages of personal attacks.

But for the most part what you’re going to find here is people who care passionately enough to try and be heard above the din and in regards to often polarizing issues. Trying to force a stop to this is probably not going to do anything but frustrate the person doing the forcing.

It would just take one aggressive mod with the proper directive to turn this forum into a quiet, happy advertisement for the game. When that happens, you know the developers are done with “community input”.

Savor the passion, and police yourself. Use the forum controls instead or your words, if that’s how you prefer. The same troll that wants 100 angry posts and nothing else will vanish in a minute if (s)he is repeatedly muted by the group with few people rising to the bait.