Where are the colors?

So this just solidifies my point how certain colors are much, much rarer than others because of this theming system. What is so bad about alien planets where there’s no uniform theme like what is currently generated today? Why can’t we get an alien planet where there’s three totally different rock colors, three off the wall soil and grass colors that may or may not go with the rock colors, etc? Why can’t any of these configs allow for a PURE 100% no bullcrap RNG system rather than trying to keep everything uniform?

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Sounds good name for new type of planet :smiley:

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Rift exo gave us vivid moss, vivid lime, vivid yellow, bright moss iirc

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as @PrincessMaude said, rift exos are your go-to bright color source.

Well. Only if you want green-yellowish bright sedimentary/igneous rocks. I don’t think that the metamorphic rocks are ever specially Brighton those planets

The gem world configs allow for the most variation of colours - as their seed can be any hue. Many of the exos are gem worlds.
If the blocks colours were all “off the wall” then the resultant world would look utterly horrendous. Creating ugly worlds is super easy.
I don’t know what you mean by no-bullcrap RNG system. Sounds like you’re asking for all the colours to just be selected randomly, in place of the current system which attempts to create an attractive world. That IMO would be a “bullcrap RNG system”.

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This is a game… We are some kind of aliens on planets that we connected with portals. Do we need planets that resemble Earth?

Of course pretty planets are nice. But I think the point is that we would also like some more variety of colors. And somehow now it feels like we do not get as much variety as we would be getting if things were totally random. Like, why did we get night orange metamorphic rocks 13 times on Umbris exoworlds when there are other night/Shadow red-orange blocks?

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Tbh I think there is a way to enforce beauty using covariance between matching colors while making each roughly uniformly likely to appear. I’m not saying this is what I want but I think this a much more civilized presentation of the desired changes to the RNG system you were responding to.

It’s very enlightening that the gem world seeds are a different cluster than other seeds. If someone can list how many gem worlds there have been, and how many unique colors came from them, we could see if those numbers are consistent with uniformly random.

What about some glitched type exos that look horrendous but that’s what they are supposed to look like :pleading_face:

It maybe fun

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I absolutely agree here. I’d rather have a ton of attractive world’s that look slightly similar than having them be entirely random.

Maybe for T8 exos there can be a totally random option. Since clearly the Tier makes the world’s terrain and colors more unique, maybe make a T8 with rainbow colors to make it look absolutely crazy. This would,

  1. Appease the people who can’t stop complaining about wanting more colors

And

  1. Show people how absolutely ugly the planets they’re asking for are.

Thanks for the explanation on the color spawns though I’m glad to hear that on the scale of a few hundred planets you got a good variety. That’s what I like to know.

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Yeah. Nice to know we only need to wait another 2-3 years to get to see almost all the colors.

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Also please keep in mind that beauty is a subjective thing and what you find ugly other can find beautiful. For example, I cannot stand warm yellow/silk yellow planets/light yellow boundless colors. I find them extremely ugly. I’d rather have colors don’t seem to fit together than having those 3 anywhere. But other people seem to be using them and that’s fine. To each their own

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Theoretically the way James just told us about the spawning of colors, you shouldn’t have to wait 2-3 years. I’d assume enough people will get rentals that we will see all the colors, or at least almost all of them that are worth waiting for, within a year. Maybe 2? But I feel it can’t be too long once rentals come out.

Although, personally, I’d be happy to wait 2-3 years for all the colors to come out. However it seems I’m part of a minority on this opinion.

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I’m not really one to care about colors but it feels like this whole thing would be easily solved by allowing sprays to be able to change the tint of any tintable block…

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@james

I think a bit of the trouble with colors revolves around player agency. Creating a beautiful build and being inspired by the colors of the game is a big part of what we enjoy.

When I saw Shadow Cerulean Gleam after a gleambow event !! ZOMG I wanted to use it all the time…but I have no control or ability to really get that color gleam. We have had several gleambow events…and even with buying it…I don’t have nearly enough.

Keep in mind, my current build uses over 13 SS of gleam in it and as I grow the build, I would need more. I am not building something garish:

Builds just use a lot of gleam.

That along with the revelation that after (almost) 2 years we have only access to 30 - 40% of the colors of blocks:

Many of us thought that Rental Planets might be the solution. I could buy a world, choose the colors and BAM have that Shadow Cerulean gleam. It appears that is not going to happen.

I don’t know the solution if not rental planets.

For me it is Shadow Cerulean Gleam, for someone else it is Orange Clay. I don’t know a way to systematically change it so that as players we can get what we INDIVIDUALLY want without flooding the universe with colors.

I hope that all makes sense :slight_smile: I’m sure ya’ll will find a solution!

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I appreciate this explanation of the system. And I can agree attractive worlds are much needed in a game like this. But I also don’t see anything wrong with an ugly world from time to time. Like just turn off the recipe and lets see what kind of crazy stuff we can get. Maybe even tie it into like some weekly/bi-weekly event we can look forward to for tons of new colors.

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This was done briefly, just before launch when they were testing the world generation system… While I think the truth of this matter is somewhere between James’ concern for aesthetics and this thread’s call for variety, I will testify that a few of the worlds were absolutely vile.

Like, PAINFUL. Headache-inducing.

If you’re really curious as to what they looked like, you can recreate the look and feel of it in the comfort of your home.

World-Gen Mix

5kg Neapolitan Ice Cream
4 Supreme Pizzas
1 Unicorn

Blend all ingredients on high for 2 minutes and then throw the contents of the blender all over your kitchen floor.

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We will find that one block of gleam someday on that planet :crazy_face:

How sweet it would be if they found a couple empty spots on sochaltin and added some gleam spots. Night azure would be a nice colour to build with.
In reality the only colours I care about on exos are the gleam.

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I really like the Night Azure gleam! I’ve used all I could scrape together to add some eerie lighting to my hidden maze-like caves under my citadel.

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Well I’m pretty sure night azure will be available as a gleam color for the sovereign world. It’s the closest to black we can get so I assume a couple people might spring for it!

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